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the unsuspecting - 2005/07/28 01:03
Hi Folks!
I've got a problem. It's been a long while since I've sensed or experienced anything. As a matter of fact, I was hoping I had finally outgrown it. You know, kids outgrow doing stupid things like playing with raw hamburger or having allergies. As we get older our bodies adjust and our minds become more organized.
We're visiting a very good friend in Germany in the town where I used to be stationed and also where I met Shanara. Shanara grew up with this woman and I've known her for well over 20 years now so we're all very tight. She even signed our guestbook here (Moni).
She's had a hell of a life but has managed to stay on her feet while raising 2 wonderful girls on her own. And finally things are really starting to go her way. We have tremendous respect for her and love her dearly. But her house is haunted.
"Yea, yea, big deal. Ok." But you have to understand that she dosen't believe in spirits and also lives alone with her daughters in this huge house. So how do you suggest something without making her life even more difficult? Anybody understand me here? If she's not aware of it, then why mention it.
Then comes Shanara.... "Youi have a strange house". So much for sparing the innocent  Actually we were quite surprised. She has experienced several things in this house but just chose to ignore them.
I've sensed something here everytime we've visited but never really experienced anything dramatic. It was just a feeling. On Tuesday morning Shanara and I were drinking coffee in the kitchen. The kids had all gone to the playground. And Moni's boyfriend was upstairs fixing her computer. That's when there came the knock on the door.
My first thought was "Man, I hope Shanara stands up before I do. I hope she'll answer the door. Maybe if I just wait...."
Shanara went to the door 
There was nobody there. Even Shanara was perplexed. It was 4 distinct klops on a door as if someone wanted in. We've checked everything trying to find a reasonable answer. Nothing. I have been able to deduce that the clopping was not at the frontdoor but rather the door going to the basement. It had the same tone when knocked upon as that which we had heard. Since then I've been "brushed" a few times and seen fleeting shadows. My senses, which have always alerted me, are going into overtime responding and analysing everything.
Moni knew all was not well here but refuses to get nervous about it. She's told us how she, her boyfriend and daughters have heard footsteps walking through the attic. Doors shutting and opening by themselves. The basement has the strongest vibes but I refuse to venture down there. I'm not up for it. But the visitor is not dangerous or benevolent so why get excited about it?
While cleaning out her basement she found a calender book dated 1928 in perfect shape laying on a shelf that has been empty for years. She brought it to us and handed it to me. I got such a shock that I threw it back on the table right away and rrefused to touch it. There is nothing written on the pages but there is a map of Eurpe at that time in the very front that has cities underlined. Starting in Poland and ending up here in this town.
After talking with an original settler of this area, we know that it is the route taken by the polish refugees in the late 40s escaping the russian occupation at the end of WW2. A woman built this house in 1950 and was one of the refugees.... and she had been born in 1928.
We're driving back home tomorrow. I've had enough and don't really want to become more involved. It brings back too much and I want out. It's not benevolent or evil so I'm not worried about Moni. We're just keeping it all cool for now.
So much for a relaxing vacation.
Take care ya'll!
tla
Post edited by: thelostamerican, at: 2005/07/30 01:40
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RootKitty
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Re:the unsuspecting - 2005/07/28 03:31
 That definitely would bring about an abrupt halt to a nice, relaxing weekend. I am so sorry, TLA and Shanara.  . Some people can't or won't or would rather not deal with anything dealing with the other side. She seems like a very strong woman, and I am sure that she has dealt with many tough things in her life. Maybe she would just rather not deal with this. Dunno. She obviously knew you knew what was going on and she did not seem to concerned, right? Or did I read that wrong? The refugee spirit probably feels that she had to travel and move so much in her life, that once she could build a house and claim property as her own "territory" it was hers forever. If your friend really wants to curb the activity, I used salt and holy oil around the house, and it worked for a little bit. Then, well, you know the rest. But, ours were nasty from the git-go. Maybe if she just talks to her (if she could find out her name, it may be even better) and tell her that she is dead, and that she just has to take one more trip, to the light, to the other side to be with her family and loved ones who are waiting for her, the spirit may just leave her alone and go away. I do hope all goes well for her. She sounds like a wonderful friend.  I hope your journey back goes well. Be safe.
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Re:the unsuspecting - 2005/07/29 01:19
Thanx Kitty. Shanara and I are packing TODAY. I've had enough and she's not feeling all that well either.
This morning at breakfast the visitor again came knocking at the door. Only this time, Moni's boyfriend was with us and heard the knock. Being stupid and sensing right away what was up, I said non-chalantly "Come in" and went back to eating. Shanara laughed slightly as he waited for the sound of a door opening and someone coming in... Nothing. Then he just stared at us.
"That was a knock on the door."
"Yep".
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"Nobody is there"
"Nope".
He just stared at us. Speechless. The really funny thing was that Shanara and I both noticed the time. It was exactly 10:10am. Just like 3 days ago.
When we went to bed last night, Shanara and I both heard a very unusual sound in the room with us. It was indescribable and we couldn't place it. Not exactly a growl. Not exactly like a low rumbling. Just really strange to define. We slept very fitfully.
And now for something funny! Want a good laugh?! I have spasms in my butt. 
I was alone upstairs yesterday brushing my teeth in the bathroom, bent over the sink when suddenly someone placed their hand on my left butt cheek and then squeezed playfully with their fingers. I flipped. I've never turned around so fast in all my life. Toothpaste and spit flew everywhere. I was not alone, I knew it even as I stood there and looked in the mirror seeing only my own reflection coming back at me. Its been a loooong while since I've had such contact. And it blew me away.
I wasn't right for a while after that. How do you tell your wife you just got groped by a ghost? So I just stayed quiet. But incredibly nervous. Shanara and the others kept asking me what was wrong but I just played them off saying I was tired.
I still don't know what to think about it. As I said, it's been a while. I finally told Shanara about it this morning and we both laughed and decided.... my butt has spasms. Only the muscles in an area the size of a hand freak out and there are 5 muscles around the edge that contract further to give the illusion of fingers digging into your flesh. A very strange physical ailment, I think.
So. Time to pack. I've experienced the rub on my left arm that kept waking me 2 nights ago and in the basement I get the sensation of being pushed from behind.
Time to go home! 
take care!
tla and Shanara.
"I do not claim to be an expert. If I say anything intelligent, it was by pure luck." thelostamerican@helloghost.com
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Re:the unsuspecting - 2005/07/29 02:35
And something else.
Imagine you have a wonderful ceasar salad in front of you with that extra tangy sauce that's so tantalizing or maybe a beautiful blue chees sauce, both of which you haven't had for years because IT'S NOT AVAILABLE IN SOME PARTS OF THE WORLD!!!!! Ahem. Anyway. Right in the middle of eating it you see a roach crawl from one piece of lettuce to the next. How does your body respond to this revolsion? Dosen't your whole body kind of quake and shiver at once?
That's the difference to a "Rub" from the unseen. Only a part of your body reacts with goose bumps. Mostly an arm or the back. But you have to not freak out and concentrate on where the sensation is. The way from getting the first creepy feeling and noticing something is by you (the Rub) to panic and fear whereby the whole body can begin to react is a short one.
I spent the other night really observing this rub. I had more than one oppurtunity in succession. I found it amazing that only one part of the body actually reacted with coldness or goosebumps. Mainly ma left arm. Why handn't my entire body reacted? Where was the shiver up my spine. There wasn't one. That comes afterwards with the fear or shock.
Just an observation that a friend of mine once passed on to me and I finally had a chance to try out. They were right
Take care ya'll
tla
"I do not claim to be an expert. If I say anything intelligent, it was by pure luck." thelostamerican@helloghost.com
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Re:the unsuspecting - 2005/07/29 12:56
Geez, I don't blame you one bit. I would have split in no time! I would have left dust clouds like the old cartoons I had left so fast!! Did her boyfriend ever put 2 and 2 together to make 4? It is really a shame that you can't spend time with your friend without the intrusion. Tell me, did the phenomena increase with your family there, or did Moni say? Perhaps that was why you were constantly being pushed, shoved, touched, trying to be scared, to get out of "her" house..."she" is having a hard enough time getting Moni and her family out, when the next thing "she" knows, more people are here.
As for being "groped" by a ghost, well, maybe "she" just couldn't control herself? No, seriously, did it happen before or after the nights of contact with your skin? If it was after, maybe it was the only way "she" knew it would "grab" (no pun intended) your attention and make "her" point of "GET OUT OF MY HOUSE!" "She" knew it would be your last straw. Dunno. Just the sense I get. That "she" does not want to give up "her" house, or what "she" thinks of as "her" house.
As for your skin sensation reaction-isolation, well, perhaps it has something to do with the energy the spirits are absorbing from your skin, your heat, your nervous electrical energy, and I bet if you could test your cellular chemistry, you would find it askew at that particular moment as well. It is probably not until after the affair is over, that the adrenaline and cortisol kicks in, influencing the rest of our body. "Just my opinion, I could be wrong"...to quote Mr. Miller
Hopefully it is over for you now. The bad part is that you are left with the emotional, mental, and spiritual "leftovers" that you have to sort through. But, hey, that is what your family at home, and your HelloGhost family are here for, right? 
Take care of yourself, and be well.
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Re:the unsuspecting - 2005/07/29 12:59
Oh, the reason I kept putting "her" in quotes is because I don't know specifically if it is a she, but I suspect that it is...the it being Moni's spirit. I just thought I would clarify. I would not want to be politically incorrect and piss off that ghost. Lord knows that I have enough of them trying to collect some kind of bounty on my head .
Take care, TLA. We are here for you if you need us.
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