RootKitty
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Re:silence is golden - 2005/03/25 08:03
Why especially over there? Are they not as open minded about such things? I find that hard to believe when the term poltergeist comes from the German words polter meaning noisy and geist meaning spirit. Or, do you mean your own family? To each their own. I don't know why people don't just let everyone tend to their own beliefs, and mind their own business.  Ok, getting off my soap box now  . Sorry.
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thelostamerican
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Re:silence is golden - 2005/03/25 13:09
Take a look at the guestbook. I found one who is interested in your story and replied back to her in german. Its a part of the culture here. It is seldom.... extreme seldom that they associate themselves with this topic. It isn't.... cultured? I'd like some more help on this subject if they would write more. But most don't trust their ability in english and have tremendous s§&tz that they'll write something wrong. Wrong spelling. Wrong Grammer. They are very precise.
Its really funnny. Not HaHa, but rather Hmmmm. My collegues at work HAVE to be able to speak English. And when they're on the phone and have to, they are great! But talk to me in english? No way. They're afraid of making mistakes. If they only knew that after 10 years here, my english is shot to hell as well! I was 2nd place in the 6th grade spelling bee! I made As in English!. But, oh well. Its gone.
And its the same with their language. I learned "High German" at the Defense Language Institute. Sort of like oxford english. When I got here and opened my mouth, not a damn person understood me. And I still get into arguments about proper gramatics!
Nobody remembers every rule as they speak. Especially when they are relaxed. And thats the way it should be. We'll understand each other even if we have to use our hands and feet. But at least we reach our goal: Understanding. That's what counts.
Sorry. I tend to go nuts on the topic of communication. There's too little of it. And only that leads to understanding. That's what counts! But I can't seem to get that thought through.
The soapbox is yours
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thelostamerican
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Re:silence is golden - 2005/03/28 11:57
hi Kitty!
I've got another example for you that really surprised me.
This past Easter weekend (Happy Easter! Sorry I didn't write), we were at my brother-in-laws. He's the type who, if he agrees with you, you have a great conversation. If he dosen't, then he makes an ass of you.
For some reason my wife kept dropping hints about my new found love, Hello Ghost, although she knows I don't like to speak openly about my spiritual experiences. At any rate, my sister-in-law took the bait and I told the story about what is going on with ya'll and how I write regularly. She had a good laugh. But my brother-in-law got real quiet. Real quiet. And when I got on his computer to check if anything was new on the site, he was suddenly right behind me. He quit once he saw that it was all in english, but his interest really shocked me. The rest of the evening nothing more was said about it. It was really strange.
My wife and I talked about it afterwards and agreed that he is hiding something. Something happened to him that he won't talk about. There are those who won't admit to such things as ghost but you notice in their behavior that they believe. That they have witnessed something. To me, their reaction just fortifies my belief.
take care!
tla
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patty1019
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Re:silence is golden - 2005/03/30 06:34
another experience somewhat like kitty's was sometime after my first mother in law passed over. i came to the realization that i was walking with her in this strange place that looked like a grid. it had rectangular holes down in it and in between appeared to be grassed over. i could see cedar trees here and there as though they had been planted in particular places for effect. there was also a gravel lane surrounding this whole place. as we walked she showed me that in these rectangular holes were people reaching up who were calling for someone to help them. remembering that she was supposed to be dead i asked her about this and she verified that i was right. when i asked if i was dead too she told me no it wasn't my time yet but that she had contacted me to allow me to know something she knew i'd be interested in. i asked why she wasn't in one of these holes and she explained that something i'd told her previous to her dying had kept her from being kept in her's. yes, her's...........that sent my mind to the conclusion that these were in fact graves which again she verified as being true. she expressed her love for me and we hugged before i found myself back in my bed. for some days this "dream" that felt real returned to my mind time and time again. thinking i must get out of the house more i decided to go for a ride in the car. i felt a pull towards somerset, ohio and thought there was no harm in it as i wasn't very well acquainted with that area though it was near where i'd grown up. coming into the town limits i felt another strong tug to turn to the left. intrigued i played this "hot and cold" game to see where it would lead. i knew ahead of time that i'd find a gravel road to my right and so when i did come upon this feature i turned right. as we drove along enjoying this landscape i turned to look to my right and got the fright of my life. there was the graveyard i'd been walking and talking with my former mother in law in while i was asleep! she'd shown me a feature of the area which would be located on down this gravel road. it was there too! i felt like i was going to die! all i wanted to do was get out of there and fast. she has shown me something horrible in my sleep that she said was going to happen to me, my kids, and my sister in law in connection to that place. my thoughts were never to go near that place again and i set this firmly in my memory. some time later we met some people whom my sister in law knew and visited them in somerset on the main run at the opposite end of town. one day they asked that we come in from the back of the property and told us how to get to the lane back there. yep, you guessed it! the way to that lane was past that cemetery and the feature of the landscape that was to be our "resting place" was right behind these peoples' house! i turned white and my sister in law asked me to tell her what was happening. she'd known me long enough to know i knew things at times that i had absolutely no way of knowing. she had begun to notice that when i turned white like this it usually meant i had had a vision of such a thing. i kept her at bey until we got back home and i made her promise never to talk to those people ever again. she promised only to find out what i'd seen. i told her and she turned white. she promised again, this time sincerely, not to contact or talk to those people ever again after that and indeed neither of us did. we're both sure that my former mother in law had saved all our lives. what's even more disturbing is the fact that not only did i have extremely limited experience with this town i had never known my mother in law to be associated with this graveyard. many years after the fact i asked my x if any of his relatives had been buried there and he was shocked to find i knew about it. i nearly fainted when he told me this was one of his family's earliest cemeteries.
whenever anyone tells me they had a bad dream i ask them to tell me what they experienced. i ask it in just that way too. the flow of what the remembered last to what came before is a flow and if they think much further about "how much" they remember it leads to much of it being lost or replaced with what they think happened. i ask because i feel when it affects them to a degree that they remember how it made them feel there's something important in it for them. something they may be missing. that something may be an omen of death just as it was for me.
some say to write everything down immediately and i've tried that, again it is influenced by our conscious mind. how to remember the flow, the true flow? allow your mind to work at it's speed at taking the last thing you remember to be your starting point, then follow it back as far as you can go. sometimes there's even more beyond that so keep that option open for later. then when you clearly remember all you can for the time being write it down if you feel the need to record this. some suggest using a recording device to do so. this may make it easier in that you don't have to do the writing but it seems to intrude into the memory of the event itself. i found that journalism training came in handy in putting pen to paper to write this. it's as simple as writing down.........who, what, when, where, why, and how in a column. for each of these words ask yourself the question......for instance..."who" is this about, "what" is this about and so on and so forth until you've answered them all. these are known as the 5 w's and one h of journalism. these are all the ingredients of successful and thorough reporting. when you begin to write about this event you don't have to try to remember to make these points, you have them written down for reference to remind you exactly what you experienced. it's a memory aide.
some questions are such that you cannot answer them so in that case i place a question mark or my question beside the word. it helps me focus on the intent i felt when i experienced what i did. in this way, you can write a more detailed report of exactly what happened, how you felt about it during it happened and how you felt after. we all feel a need to conclude things in some form or another. sometimes it comes to an intersection which leads to even more questions than you had before. writing the report is a way to help you determine what to do about what you experienced more than anything. sharing that report with others who've had similar experiences means we have the ability to show others the way through or they us.
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thelostamerican
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Re:silence is golden - 2005/03/30 23:48
Hi Patty!
Thanx. I read your bit on dreams before going to bed last night and had nothing but nightmares
Just kidding. I don't sleep very well at all anyway. Ususally I have one bad dream after the other. For a long time only alcohol helped me to really slumber, but I stopped polluting myself like that a while back. I just have to contend with the dreams. And my wife has to contend with me turning on my lamp at all hours of the night. lol.
Something strange happened last nite. Three times I was kicked from under my bed. One time as I was reading my book. One time after I turned off the light and closed my eyes trying to fall aslepp. And the last time it woke me up. And for the first time, I started getting uneasy and more aware of my surroundings. I love my house. Mainly because there has never been anything paranormal about it. I have never sensed anything in this house that would get my attention and I still think it was nothing. Just something wierd worth ignoring. It really got to me though. Oh well.
If anyone is sending me their unwanted guests, though, I'm gonna get severly pis$&d off! 
Take care!
tla
Post edited by: thelostamerican, at: 2005/03/30 23:49
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patty1019
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Re:silence is golden - 2005/03/31 06:54
hey tla,
sorry to hear that! sleep is a precious commodity here too. my husband suffers from flashbacks, working in his sleep, and loud snoring! lol i find it easier to fall asleep in front of my computer.
a kick under the bed is childish behaviour. it's hit and run usually. one kid wanting to draw another out of their little world and into their's. whenever one brother of mine did this to another, by the time the offender was out from under the bed the offended had their head under there seeing them fly out of the room. what ensued was chase, capture, and punishment. it would seem that you are all work and no play, tla! maybe your inner child is telling you that what you need is time to blow off some steam. hope this helps.
next?!! lol
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