I didn’t expect to have another update so quickly, but I guess the ghost/spirit/whatever doesn’t care if we all get carpal tunnel or not. I suppose the best place to start with this one would be the time, which, by a moral standpoint, would be 1:30 AM. The reason I say that is because my wife (RootKitty) had some earlier incidents that she’s currently discussing with Ravenwolfe, and I don’t want to say something that Ravenwolfe wouldn’t want me to say; you know, like a secret or something. So for this update, we’re going to focus primarily on 1:30 AM and later.

     At around 1:30 AM, RootKitty had awakened to the sound of her name. Not ‘mommy’ like before, but to her real name. When she came to her senses, she saw our dog sitting on the foot of the bed staring at the same area of the wall and floor that he usually does; apparently waiting for something to come back through the floor. She could hear children’s laughter and a music box coming from within our room, but nobody was there. She states it’s the same music box and tune that both of us heard together once before. It sounded as if the children were laughing and playing near the music box. The assumption is that one of the children called her by her name; but it’s simply an assumption. After a minute or two, it all went away. Soon thereafter, a familiar growl could be heard. It had appeared that the wolf had returned once again.

     Still in bed, RootKitty just watched as our dog began growling back, and following the invisible wolf with his head. Not too much took place, and it was soon obvious that the wolf had disappeared. The growling had stopped and our dog jumped from the bed. He ran to the ‘special spot’ and started scratching at the area, perhaps trying to get to the wolf.

     The break didn’t last long. Fifteen or so minutes later, the growling started again. RootKitty woke me up to witness what was taking place. I reached over to grab hold of my dog, just to check on him I guess, and he was ice cold. He was so cold that he didn’t even look like himself. Even writing this now, nearing 18 hours later, I still feel bad for my dog. He paid no attention to me whatsoever; he was just too focused on what we couldn’t see. His head was following something that was growling and circling our bed, and he was scared to death. You could tell he was scared, what did he see??

     This drama continued for nearly thirty minutes. The wolf kept circling the bed and growling, and our dog kept watching him and growling back. Both animals would pause their growling intermittently, perhaps for air or just for a break. Soon though, the wolf returned to its ‘world’ or ‘dimension’ or where ever it came from. But regrettably, we just weren’t meant to sleep last night.

     A good ten minutes had gone by without any issues, so the dog decided it was OK to go to sleep. We also lay back to sleep, and I started thinking about what had just happened. Why was the wolf continuing to circle the bed? Why couldn’t we see it? Why could our dog? Why is this happening so soon after the last episode? What else could this be, besides a ghost or a spirit?

     As I lay there thinking, it was obvious that I was the only one awake. RootKitty and the dog had fallen asleep I gathered, as it was exceptionally quiet. All at once, just to the left side of me, the crisp sound of a twig could be heard breaking as if a heavy animal had stepped on it while sneaking up on it’s prey. My dog leapt up from his slumber and darted towards the unwanted intruder, barking as ferocious as he possibly could. He chased this creature from the left side of my bed to the other side of the room and then back again. Upon arriving near the ‘special spot’, the wolf promptly just went away again; and that was the end of it. Yes, that’s right. My dog scared off the invisible big bad wolf.

It doesn’t make any sense, does it?

Comments

reply to cat and mouse Written by patty1019 on 2005-03-24 08:56:37 hey rootweb,  it makes sense to your dog and you do.......trust your dog don't you? ask ravenwolff teu about skin walkers. even though you can't see it with your eyes it could be a spirit that's made itself to look and sound like a wolf. at this point i'd be talking to any old timers in your specific area to see what the lay of the land looked like before your house was built there. i mean the space your house sits on, the footprint of the house itself specifically. what you should be asking about should be mounds, depressions in the ground, slight earthworks of any kind, etc.     patty1019

root Written by thelostamerican on 2005-03-24 13:17:43 hi Root,    She did it again. Patty beat me to the punch. Grrr.    I read your entry this morning and its been bugging me all day. Are you sure that this thing is walking on all 4 legs? This behavior just dosen't add up to a wolf. I'm kinda lost for a reply here.    kepp the updates coming  tla

Yes, I am positive Written by Kitty on 2005-03-24 19:21:32 I am quite positive that it walks on all fours. Do you know how some people are very visual, and others are very audible? Well, I do better, and have always done so from the time I was little, if I just close my eyes and listen. My hearing is quite remarkable if I do say so myself , and as I was lying there that night, I distinctly heard the tread of two sets. And when the dog had "it" in a run, you could hear it definitely using two sets, unlike the one on one that you hear when a man runs. If you read the previous entry of 2-28-2005 of Quote: started hearing little ‘ticks’ coming towards her, as if something with nails was walking across the ceramic tile floor of the dining room. They were again in sets of two just like when our dog walks on the tile floor with this feet.     I KNOW it doesn't sound like wolf behavior. But the growls were unlike any I have ever heard from any domesticated animal. I have been around many wild animals in my time, and this was definitely wild, untamed, unbridled...UNCHECKED.    Trust me, I look for the obvious, the scientific, the explanable, and when all else fails, unlike my better half, I do believe in the paranormal. However, I, having a background in many disciplines of Science, will look towards those explanations first. Else, RootWeb and I would not get along so well     I just can't wait for it to be over. As I was saying to someone else, I just hope that what is here, stays here. I would hate to take anything with us when we move.    Ideas/comments on this?    Thanks,    RootKitty

No doubt Written by thelostamerican on 2005-03-25 02:06:04 Wow, Root, I think Kitty liiiiiikes you     I do trust you, Kitty. Otherwise I would not be here. I just wanted to be sure because it didn't click. Wolves are communal animals. I mean, they travel in packs, not alone. And they call each other through howling. Their not easily scared off either (as your wonderful dog achieved). But I hate being an alarmist, so we'll leave the description as a wolf. I know I'll sleep better thinking that. lol    Is it possible to take the spirits with you?    As an aside, my wife is the same as Root. She's never expeienced anything to make her believe in the paranormal, apart from me and my wierd antics. But its good because it keeps me on the ground sometimes. She actually sat down and read some of the site yesterday and got interested! Still dosen't believe in the paranormal, but it got her interest up!    Take care  tla

I didn't believe it myself... Written by kitty on 2005-03-25 13:21:03 I didn't think wolf right off the bat either. I thought German Shepard, Rottie, but then as time went on, and it got more carnal (that was the word I was searching for), more intense, it did not seem like it could be anything else. I may be wrong. That is VERY possible. Perfect I am not. It just seemed more savage.    I am glad that your wife is at least interested. Interest at least shows the willingness to learn new things... someone else's point of view. There are many others that can't see past the end of their own nose long enough to care about anyone else. Sounds like you and I are very fortunate to have someone to keep our feet on the ground and us out of trouble...Not the other way around!!

Love that word Written by thelostamerican on 2005-03-27 09:19:33 Love that word! "Carnal", YeeHaa! It fits in this sense too. And Savage.    We'll stay with wolf. It fits. And if I were to say "Demon" I'll be locked away which is just as well as I have NO IDEA in that area. Blanko. Zilch. That thought I'll just keep to myself

definitions Written by Guest on 2005-03-30 10:47:42 rootkitty,    yep, that would do it! lol the word demon to many means myth and who believes in myths? i can say that looking past the usual definition to the actual spirit activity i find a need to label it. demon seems to fit the bill! carnal? hmmm well, to me that means a baser spiritual essence. one that isn't eternal. it's evidential of a spirit source inside the body. at death the spirit separates from the body sorta like taking the batteries out of a toy. we are taught in church that our body is nothing more than a suit of clothes. we take them off and our spirit if free. also in church we have learned that even a donkey can talk and stones can cry out. wouldn't this mean that the spirit of life is in everything, even the smallest grain of sand? alot to ponder. kurlian photography shows this. so can it be that a long dead wolf or pack of wolves could still be hanging around or coming back to visit once in awhile, yes. in this same way i go back and forth in time. i don't know how to explain how i do this just that i know it happens. i've also been above time in such a way as to view it as a flow much like that of a river. so spirits hang out apart from the river that we are now living in and sometimes jump in for a swim, lol. what's beyond the time flow? all those who've lived and died before us. there's a lush garden there with trees and plants which exhibit no dead parts. proof that they aren't artificial comes when you touch them. everything there exudes the spirit of life. there are other people there too but i haven't focused in on them yet in my search for understanding. i do know that when a person first passes over there soul seems to alight in a place which looks very foggy up to about the ankles. no one knows anyone else yet they do know them somehow. they are waiting together patiently without fear or anxiety. it's hard for me to imagine i'd be so calm. they seem to know where they are and how they got there though they say it's not for us to know the answers to this....yet. a friend of mine who passed over after being killed on a three wheeler told me that, "it's not at all like they said it would be in sunday school!" he said this to me three times in succession. he was very excited and wanted me to tell everyone else sort of like it would set us all free somehow. i found out later that he'd gone to church at a little wooden country church on a back road which was united methodist. origin of that denomination comes from the german moravian missionaries. they were said to be spirit filled possessing spiritual abilities. the moravians are thought to be originated from some jewish lines. the moravian who came to the u.s. began their lives here separate from other people and called themselves pennsylvania deutch, meaning german. the pennsylvania deutch then became amish, menonite, and maranatha, which are the three main sects today. the amish have at least two subsects of old order amish and new order amish. as the name implies the old order's requirements are kept as pure to the original as possible.     what's this mean when looked at from my friend's point of view? it means that the christianized jews' view of the after life isn't correct "at all", at least when one first passes over that is. when i was over there for 45 minutes in 1980 i found there to be this lush garden where there were other people. i question why anyone would want to come back from that and find i have no answer other than they never were over there. it's inconceivable that anyone would ever have any inclination to do so. i know when i passed over i knew that everything where i'd come from would be ok and i never had to worry about it or the people i left back there again. so, why are some still here? hopefully we'll discover why in the future. i tell friends who are about to pass to go straight to God, do not pass go, do not collect $200, lol. the last friend who's since passed over thought this was funny. she was going to wreak havoc on some people here for what they'd done to her. i told her to go to God first and then, if she still wanted to do this and it was ok with him, i'd get his permission first. i told her i knew that some either stayed here or came back and never went back again. it made me sad that they seemed to be stuck here intermittently appearing from time to time to express how they felt about something that was important to them even after death. maybe we can't get to the other place until we let go of these things here.     patty1019

I know... Written by rootweb on 2005-04-04 08:27:10 I know that there a few people I plan on coming back to haunt... Of course it may be difficult since I fully expect to live forever. On a more serious note, I've heard that we have to be reincarnated if we screw up in this life. I don't know how 'screw up' could be defined though. Being a bad person maybe? Maybe the more time you spend on Earth, the more docile you become; thus becoming 'An Old Soul'.

Ravenwolfe Teu Written by Ravenwolfe Teu on 2005-04-25 06:27:46 These are my instinctive spiritual senses of the latest turn and I will comment on past occurances as well... Anything I relay to RootKitty may be mentioned here however my belief is that when we re-veal information we have gathered about the spirit and it's activity we are also cluing the spirit in and possibly giving it information it was unaware of making it more possible for the spirit to use that information against us. Does that make sense ?     Patty, you used the term ' skin walkers ' I believe you're talking about what I call ' shape shifters ' these are among my Native Heritage Beliefs known to us as a spirit who shifts it's shape ( and characteristics ) from human form to animal form. While shifted the spirit must use the vehicle in all it's ability such as hearing sounds of four legs walking like a wolf. I also want to state that it is ( to me ) a spiritual fact that if the spirit chooses a large dog shape the footfalls will sound like a large dog's footfalls, the barks will sound like a large dog's bark. If the spirit had chosen to shift into a fox terrier then the footfalls are lighter, the barks small and non-threatening.     I want to address the growling for a moment. The growling I am familiar with especially when I journey. Journey is defined as leaving this human body and crossing the veil that seperates the world of the embodied from the world of the dis-embodied. As a shaman I was taught not to journey unless absolutely necessary because of the dangers on the other side ( I take a walk on the wild side where I am on their territory, their play ground and man do they know how to play ( by that I mean they know how to mess with your mind, to freak out your brain and yes, they can come back with you just like hanging onto a shirt tale and follow you through ) I'm getting off track ... let me go back...     The growling sound, yes it is unlike any growl provided on this plane because it is NOT from this plane, this world of the living ... it's a death growl, this may be interesting to you ...     This growl, IS from a human form disembodied * group of spirits * that's why it seems to be able to go on and on .. it's a sharing, you see of many spirits. It's intense as hell and scary and it also ( and I have not seen you describe this yet here but ) it also draws in very close to you and backs away, then up close as if it is passing through you then back away again , this growl can also seem to change pitch in mid stream ... like a howling growl, one time seeming to sound as if this thing is in pain and full of sorrow and the next minute it sounds like it's warning you, that YOU are about to meet your maker, aggressive and threatening .....     Then comes the children ... most times laughing when entering your realm, children are usually drawn to the females in the household, that mother child nuturing thing never leaves the human spirit.     Now, this ushering by the growling, ok, the warning to be still ( which is probably what you do - hold your breath and listen ) I believe is tied to this group of spirits proceeding the children in entry. Then why was RootKitty awakened by the sound of children laughing and the music box playing instead of the growling coming first ? I feel she wasn't... I feel Root Kitty had already met with the * wolf * as you call it and it doesn't care what you call it .. just so it's purpose is served... but that she didn't recall that b/c of being in the half awake half asleep stage ... so she woke up hearing the little girl call her name ... little boy spirits will lower their voice like Froggy on Little Rascals IF they talk to you and you can't hear them .. they'll deepen their spiritual voice... that's why I called this spirit who spoke to Kitty a female .     Ok, you have a porthole in your bedroom. Same place, same time.. lol as in the past. This seems ( fron what you describe ) that this is a permanent port hole. If you go touch that wall right now you'll find it colder than the other walls. It's a veil .. it's texture is like the thin layer of clear film on the inside of an egg shell, you know how touch that can be to tear free and you also know how it can be used to DRAW out poisons from teh human skin ( in the old days they'd put that clear layer over boils to draw out the poison ) anyway ... the veil does the same .. is the same in concept, hard to tear and draws things in ... so your living energies are being drawn into that porthole and they THEY are finding you a dis-turbance to their realm.     I hope I've spoken in a manner that makes sense today.     As I could go on and on I will close this for now.     Once you move I feel you'll have only the residule of all you've been through to get over... things may scare you when you shouldn't be just because you know what you've been through. But that will pass.     Courage, to you I say ... good doggie..     Ravenwolfe Teu

werid Written by Guest on 2005-04-24 19:56:40 this is so confusing i dont understand

2 for Teu Written by thelostamerican on 2005-04-26 06:18:08 Hi Ravenwolfe!    If we can't pass on what we may have as info on the spirit world for fear that they may change tactics, how are we going to solve anything?    You and Patty are starting up with "Shape Shifters" and "Skin Walkers"... Do you mean there are such beings? I thought ghosts were ghosts and, well, demons were demons (if they exist). But you all talkin' about beings changing their appearance... sounds pretty hairy to me (no pun intended. lol)    Everything you said about the growling is true. A friend of my father's brought his tape recorder one Sunday to church for my dad to hear what had been recorded in his house overnight while he slept. Dad was a presbyterian minister. This "Growling" was exactly as you described it. Changing in pitch as well as volume, strength and aggresiveness. From a deep, low growl to a ear splitting scream. Always fluctuating. And horrifying beyond belief to hear. I also had had other, very bad experiences in this house. Thank you. You just clarified a part of it for me.    I haven't spoken with Kitty as much as you have. It appeared to me that the children camer to play. They always tend to go places where they feel secure, such as near mom or dad, Grandma's or even a favorite spot in the woods.These are the places where they can really let loose because they have nothing to fear.    Then comes the beast.    And they're gone.    They fear it as we do. To me, there's no doubt as to why they took off. More than one spirit can exist on the same plane and "see" one another. When one is malevolent, violent, evil and dangerous who wants to stick around? And they react just as we do on our plane of existance. After all, they are still "People".    Your explanation of the portal is... classic. Perfect.    You've made a lot of sense today. At least to me. So much so that I'll need a stiff nightcap so I can sleep tonight. lol.    Take care!  tla    PS Got to love that wonderful hairless dog of theirs. What a guy!

Kitty! Written by thelostamerican on 2005-04-25 15:44:36 Where are ya, Girl?! How's your new house?

blackdeath Written by Guest on 2005-05-13 08:01:36 oooh eerie mystical doom to all who seeks the truth.

blackdeath Written by Guest on 2005-05-13 08:02:02 oooh eerie mystical doom to all who seeks the truth.

la da daaaa mystical eerie doooom... Written by thelostamerican on 2005-05-24 14:44:09 Wasn't that a hit in the 70's? Wait! Don't tell me.... Black Sabath? Naw. Too repetitous.    Eerie mystical doom to the man who thinks he can hide something from his wife. When she finds it, you'll know what eerie mystical doom is     tla

shapeshifters Written by patty1019 on 2005-06-01 14:07:44 teu,    shapeshifters, i'm understanding more and more lately when i think back on all my experiences and examine them closer. for those of you who've never experienced one of these count yourselves as very fortunate. to have experienced one means you can never go back to where you were before, ie., ignorance sometimes is bliss! lol anyway, i've been able to see where i had identified certain individuals as those who were "playing" around with black witchcraft and basically were people with bad intentions. some of us realize we've got certain abilities which enable them to seek and obtain vengeance for example. it's a high to be sure but it's also like a drug that draws you deeper and deeper into darkness. sure you're getting something in the bargain but you're also losing something, your soul. although a soul can never be distroyed it can be changed. play in a coal pile and you'll see the change in the color of your skin for example. speak of the bizarre, creepy, or weird for fear that the bad spirit will change tactics? it's good to know the truth, it does set one free, maybe it sets free the original instigator but it also sets free the vexed. in other words, they have to change in order to annoy you. you bring the truth of what they're about into the light of truth. they can never do it that way to you again, can't return to it. they have to learn new tricks or be quiet. speaking of the bizarre and creepy things of the paranormal distinguishes between good and bad in the spirit realm. why not? if it helps everyone understand the difference between them all is it not better to understand versus being afraid because you don't understand? fear is the mind killer as someone once said. those who have traumatic memories bottled up in their subconscious for instance react to their everyday world with the fear gathered into them by the trauma. once these memories re-emerge as in post traumatic stress disorder, it's a fight to the finish with the trauma of the past. far removed from the original event you can and do win this time. once you've won you're free from that fear once and for all. it's the same with sharing the trauma of the paranormal. to know is to be free. and for us to be free means that the bad spiritual forces are bound, they cannot proceed with us in the same ways any longer. who knows but that the limit to their bag of tricks is very limited. for instance what if a person of today's day and age were to stumble onto this site. they'd have the freedom to learn things we only wished we could've learned as children. now they have the ability to be free from things such as we've encounter in our pasts. they are free without having experienced it one time. they know the truth. any attacks on them will have to be well thought out and instituted. it will have to be complex and interesting to them. the spirit knows what's in a person's heart and what they seek. they will provide what you seek in a way which will make you fear. that fear, i believe is something they do indeed feed on. their energies are of such a low vibration that they need our energies to come back up to where they once were. i believe they remember what it was like once for them to be like us. the ability to be happy and carefree, to choose beauty and comfort. they no longer have that choice haven given themselves over to darkness. using darkness to gain energy from our fear only strengthens their darkness. it does not give them light like they seek. they go deeper and deeper into the depths of their own misery. can they be helped? that's debatable. it may in fact be possible and i've tried it yet i feel in some part it's over for them. they cannot go back. even those who are here out of depression and distress are here by their own making. i have to believe though that there is a higher power they can call upon to pull them out of where they are if they just believe and expect. can they do it? possibly. there is a little evidence for me to suggest that this has in fact happened but it's not clear. my hope is that it has. i don't know what else to make of shape shifters other than they are pure evil. after seeing a few of them and their tricks as it were, i seem to be perceiving that they are human spirits who've learned during their lives how to be mean and bad and find in the afterlife they can do so while changing shapes and voices. they're liked scared children who strike out to defend themselves. to leave that world they'd have to trust someone enough to help them. i believe that help is possible. yet the bulk of the matter belongs squarely with them and them alone. it's their choice. i think they know that some of us could help them but they rather choose to try and draw energy from us by scaring us. i've been so scared so many times in my life that it just dosen't take for me much anymore, lol. they seem quite distressed that they can't get a rise out of me and i just stand there and look at them. i see them in my mind and laugh about what they've done to scare me. the one in this present house? well, i believe i've figured that one out. seems someone did die here. a rather large woman who was an alcoholic. she developed an anurism and bled out before the squad arrived. this explains the slamming doors, the heavy walking, pacing, the heavy pan thrown on the bare basement floor. all things a woman at her wits end might do. i was told she felt very lonely and sad although she had a beautiful little 5 year old girl. something in her life caused a change in her to want to drink. the way she believed that her life couldn't change that it was on a set path. she was stuck and still is. why did i experience her heart wrenching pain. it paralleled my own though i didn't know it till a few days ago. my subconscious knew. the conscious part of my memory however did not. when those memories re-emerged just days ago it was like struggling with a monster that threatened to kill me. the flood of emotions of a deed done to me when i was just a baby had hidden itself deep in my mind where it hid and festered for my entire life. it made me weak and fearful of trust. now i am free of it. now i can go forward. maybe we should then look upon such visitations as if they were like the dickens classic "scrooge". share what you know and it will help others and yourself. keep it to yourself and you may be an eternal prisoner to it. i cannot say how different i feel today since those memories re-emerged. i'm not the same person as before. i'm sure i was quite different before the act occurred in real life. i was however a baby. the act of turning it on the violator instead of letting it continue to violate my life made the difference. i chose to lay the blame squarely where it was supposed to be laid, on the one who violated me. thanks teu, for praying for me.     patty1019

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